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== Merging articles on playable starships == We have too many articles about playable starships: *[[Starship tier chart]] *[[Starship (classes)]] *[[Federation playable starship]] *[[Klingon playable starship]] *[[Starship (types)]] *+ this one... <br/> I want to delete "Starship (types)" and combine/merge all the other ones in this article (i.e. "Playable starship"). Any objections or remarks? Especially with the release of Season 6, maintaining and updating all these pages is just not feasible. --[[User:Akira-sensei|Akira-sensei]] 18:30, 16 July 2012 (UTC) :I like the idea and imagine a comprehensive article that could be featured as one of the top material of STOWiki. However, would it also be a good idea to transform "Starship (classes)" into "Non-playable starships", or is that superfluous? Either way, I would like to help you. --[[User:Markonian|Markonian]] 20:57, 16 July 2012 (UTC) ::I too think this makes a lot of sense! Will pitch in if possible. --[[User:Walshicus|Walshicus]] 21:01, 16 July 2012 (UTC) OK, I'll give it a start. We just tackle this step by step. I'll combine all of those articles and get rid of the bulky tier charts by SpiderMitch. Don't get me wrong, they are beautiful, BUT they take a lot of space for information, which (as part of this wiki) can better be displayed in a sleak, functional table. --[[User:Akira-sensei|Akira-sensei]] 22:51, 16 July 2012 (UTC) :Please give me a hand redesigning the ship lists at [[Starship tier chart]]!!! I will later incorporate them on [[Federation playable starship]] and [[Klingon playable starship]]. I already replaced [[Starship (types)]] with a redirect to [[Playable starship]] and moved [[Starship (classes)]] to [[Non-playable starship]]. --[[User:Akira-sensei|Akira-sensei]] 01:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC) Glad to see someone tackling this at last! Messing around with starships has always been my favourite part of the game. I had planned to do this myself but never found the time, and recently I've gotten bored with STO to be honest! :( The most important thing, in my opinion, is for you guys to re-write as much of this as possible so that it all shares the same writing style and terminology, and then to link them all together with a sidebar nav template thingy (e.g. [[w:Science fiction]]), so that it all flows together as a single piece. The stuff that I was going to address with the individual articles were... * As you've suggested, unifying the various articles about ships, and tidying it all up * Clear separation between playable and non-playable ships, especially for Klingon and Federation vessels. It ought to be clear to readers that, for instance, the playable [[Exploration Cruiser]] is completely different to the NPC [[Galaxy Class Cruiser]]. * Clarity on which NPC ships you'll see in combat and which are like non-combat 'set pieces'. Also classification of combat NPC into types, i.e. Fighter, Frigate, Cruiser, Battleship (or something along those lines) * Basic instructional articles, all linked together, about ships and space combat.. ** Types of ship and the difference between ** The different types of space (system vs sector space) and how to move around and get to places ** Basic space combat information (think this already exists) ** Power levels! The current articles on power levels are really out of date and not very useful at all. ** Weapon and energy types (again exists, but should probably be re-written) * A separate set of guides or tutorials on which is the 'best' ship, or how to take down some of the tougher opponents * Note that its VERY IMPORTANT to distinguish articles which should have a neutral point-of-view, and 'guides' that can include the author's opinion. I had also tried to classify playable ships into broad categories to simplify these articles, i.e. Cruiser, Escort, Science Vessel and Raider, Raptor, Heavy Warship, however Cryptic have been screwing with that by adding loads of new ship types. I'm sure you guys can come up with something. Edit: Also, MORE SCREENSHOTS! The articles are really dull and wordy. A picture tells x1000 words. Some cool action shots of the various ships could really spice things up. Best way to get smexy action shots is to make a simple foundry mission (tip: use a console in spacedock/qonos as the first mission gate), then play the mission and record it with [[demorecord]]. Then when yo play it back write down the exact timestamp of when something cool happens, and then play it back again at super-slow speed and pause at that moment. Thats how I got stuff like this [[:File:USS_Lhasa_fights_Remans.jpg]]. Good luck! :D --[[User:Zutty|Zutty]] 12:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC) :Me and [[User:Karika]] already solved some of the issues wrt the ship lists (e.g., the new currencies, smaller font etc.). I will also try to tackle most of the organizational end editorial tasks you've outlined, but I still need some technical assistance on the following issues: *[[Template:Playableshipsbytype]] and [[Template:Playableshipsbyquery]] both do NOT accept any faction-parameter, i.e. it is not possible to display a list of ALL klingon or ALL starfleet vessels (at least that option is apparently not working). Also, is there a parameter option to EXCLUDE certain types, i.e. small craft? *The sort by rank function in the lists seems to be screwed up somehow. *I've added device slots and impulse speed as values to both templates, but neither displays the values in the respective columns (e.g., see the list on [[Small craft]]). *Someone skilled (i.e. you?^^) needs to add the option of specifying MULTIPLE classifications for 1. ship type (e.g., Catian Atrox is BOTH a science vessel AND a carrier) and 2. cost & costunit (the new fleet ships cost fleet credits {{FC}} AND fleet ship modules {{FSM}} - both currencies should be listed on the ship articles and in the list-templates, either in a row or below each other). :'''Thanks!!!''' --[[User:Akira-sensei|Akira-sensei]] 13:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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