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Infoboxes/Tooltips on set pages[edit source]

What do we need to do in order to get the tooltips working again on set pages. Example of one that used to work Quantum_Phase_Catalysts Asanad (talk) 00:33, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Could you elaborate? I see the infobox/tooltips fine. SFC3 (talk) 03:29, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
The popup is not showing. They used too. The information is there but the tooltip is not popping up. If you look at the STOWiki:sandbox of the wiki. All 4 of those should have a tooltip that pops up when you mouseover. The only one that does there is the shuttle and I don't know why. On some pages the deflector will show but the others have not. Its been a while since I messed around here so maybe I'm missing the obvious. Maybe its a caching issue the deflector was working in some places and now it isn't. Asanad (talk) 19:47, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
While this should already be fixed, do you have your language settings set to anything other than "en - English"? There was a bug related to that in the past. If you're using another language setting, please try "en - English" and see if the tooltips start showing up again. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 00:09, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
I also noticed this on "Ship weapon nav" table template at the bottom of weapon articles. Most infoboxes there pop-up on mouse over, but there is a pattern where icons which have their article (of the same name) redirecting to a set page, won't pop-up infobox. I have "en - English" under settings. --Damixon (talk) 00:27, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
For example, [[File:Hangar - Elite Class F Shuttles icon.png]] showed correct infobox which pop-up on mouse over (It didn't had its own article). Once I redirected Hangar - Elite Class F Shuttles article to Hangar - Class F Shuttles#Hangar - Elite Class F Shuttles it showed infobox of Hangar - Class F Shuttles/Info (instead of elite variant of that hangar pet). After that I redirected Hangar - Elite Class F Shuttles to Test and [[File:Hangar - Elite Class F Shuttles icon.png]] no longer showed any infobox on mouse-over. --Damixon (talk) 00:51, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Nice good catch. It does seem to be related to the redirect on the original item page. I removed the redirect for Sol Defense Deflector Array and the infobox pops up on the set page and everything as its supposed to. Asanad (talk) 07:19, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, TippingOver checks to see if the linked page is a redirect, and if so, it looks up the title of the page that redirects points to and uses that to determine where the tooltip should be. That was a requested update for Hearthstone Wiki. The feature can be shut off, but the setting isn't in our configuration utility right now. I'd have to file a ticket, and I doubt it'd be handled until after Labor Day. Just consider carefully, because unfortunately right now, it's either on or off for all links. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 20:47, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
So what are the options exactly? Turn this new feature off and it goes back to as it was. Which is the way they were all set up originally or what it is now where the tooltips do not work on pages with multiple items on them. How can we with TippingOver be able to get tooltips to work for each individual items on a page? We could just remove the Redirects but that would cause other issues with links/searching etc. Is there anything on this wiki even uses TippingOver? Asanad (talk) 22:41, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
All the tooltips use TippingOver. And that feature was introduced quite some time ago. The options are what I said; this feautre is default in TippingOver, but optional. I just don't have direct access to the setting currently. I have to file a ticket to get it changed, and with this being a holiday weekend, I don't know how quickly it'll get addressed. That's why I want to be sure losing this functionality isn't going to cause trouble. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 00:56, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Thats what I'm curious about, what is using TippingOver for tooltips. Looking at the suggestionbox when tooltips were first added STOWiki_talk:Suggestion_Box#Item_tooltips it was some sort of script that was similar if not the same to the one on neverwinter. In there you can see where it started for the redirect/Info page was setup for the set pages. I don't know how to use TippingOver for a tooltip. The only way I know is the way you originally setup and it seems that's the way everyone has been doing it as well. Asanad (talk) 02:25, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
TippingOver has fully replaced that script here, so it's used exactly the same way. This was done because the script broke when we began supporting HTTPS, and then again when we switched to HTTPS fully. Unlike the script, TippingOver handles those configuration changes smoothly without any intervention. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 03:14, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Gotcha, I thought that might be the case. So just turning off that option in TippingOver would put us back to business as usual. Which, as you said, will be a few days due to holiday etc etc. Asanad (talk) 04:37, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

System Location Maps[edit source]

With the not so recent expansion of the Alpha Quadrant, maps created by Tuptrek and placed on almost every system page are no longer accurate. I think it might be the best if we scrap that idea and delete the maps from all pages which have them, but I wanted to discuss it with you before doing anything. --PiralDorrm (talk) 15:56, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

I see no reason to remove those. It is safe to assume that quite a bit of work went into them and they still show the correct locations. --Dukedom (talk) 06:58, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Nominations for administrator[edit source]

It's long past time to promote some experienced officers to the administrative team. I'm aiming to promote at least three experienced STOWiki editors to the position, and I've started by nominating Damixon, SFC3, and PiralDorrm.

If they choose to accept the nomination, editors may vote on the RfA pages linked below to show support or oppose their promotions as per STOWiki policy.

Please note that voting isn't open for a nominee until his or her RfA page is marked as "active." Once active, it will also show instructions for making your vote.

I'm not setting a closing date for the vote yet partly because I don't know if all three will accept, and partly because I may yet be contacting additional candidates. (I'll also add this to the sitenotice after at least one nomination is accepted.) oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 10:18, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations to the candidates for their nomination! Kind regards, Markonian (talk) 15:18, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
I've decided to set a closing date of Tuesday, September 12 for Damixon and SFC3's nominations in order to have active admins more quickly. It's the earliest I can set under the admin selection policy: two weeks after they accepted the nomination. This does not mean I've decided against further nominations, and my goal is still to promote at least three, so you may still see more in the days ahead. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 23:32, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Sitenotice shows September 22 as a closing date, which doesn't match the date in comments here. Actual end of vote for SFC3 and me should be tomorrow (12th). --Damixon (talk) 11:46, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Herp derp, indeed.
Also, after considering things for a while, I'm going to set PiralDorrm's to close the 15th. I've decided against further nominations for the immediate future, even though I think there are other good candidates. Three is, I think, a good number for the time being, but even though I've decided to delay for the moment, I'm still strongly considering the merits of making one or two more nominations. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 13:09, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
With no opposition to speak of, I've promoted SFC3 and Damixon to community administrator. Congratulations to both of you. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 17:13, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you fellow wiki editors for entrusting me the administrator rights. I will do my best to support you with my new toolbox, containing shiny instruments that can maintain good condition of this wiki. Note that this doesn't give me any editing privileges so don't hesitate to dispute my edits if situation requires it. I'll monitor the admin noticeboard, but you can also pm me, or post on my talk page if attention is needed. I really like editing here and still enjoy playing STO so I'm glad I could help. --Damixon (talk) 00:54, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
And with widespread support, PiralDorrm becomes the newest administrator. I'd like to thank all of you who voted for your input. This wraps things up for the time being. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 10:28, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks to all of you who voted. This wiki has come a long way since I first joined you, but a lot of work remains to be done. I'm happy to see that there are more active editors now. I look forward to continuing working with all of you. --PiralDorrm (talk) 13:46, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Deletions, deletions, deletions![edit source]

Hey all! First duty as admin is to delete all of the clutter/superfluous articles that just take up space - if you spot something please slap a "speedy deletion" tag on it. Thanks! SFC3 (talk) 00:33, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Hey there, and congrats on the promotion. I think streamlining is always a good idea, but I'm not entirely sure which kind of article you are referring to? Could you provide some examples? -- Tadayou (talk) 11:27, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Orphaned articles, blank pages, that sort of thing. SFC3 (talk) 21:40, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Wiki issues[edit source]

As you probably noticed, there have been issues on this wiki related to the aws migration. It has been happening across all wikis, and those are all known issues: pages taking +10 seconds to load, internal server error 500, 520, various cache issues - template still loading previous version after change was made, newly uploaded images sometimes load, sometimes don't, search errors or search auto-complete doesn't work, lock errors when uploading images.

I found an official response at gamepedia.slack by Alianin, one of the gamepedia wiki managers: "...We are actively fixing it. We've moved a 5 year old platform to a brand new host and all those configurations had to be recreated. We test and tweak as much as we can but sometimes there's still more tweaking to do until it's finally happy. Things will fully stabilize eventually but we'll have these blips until we get there. It'll happen sooner rather than later since the migration is fully done and we can now focus on the optimizations."

Its a bit annoying to edit at the moment so hopefully they fix it soon. --Damixon (talk) 13:51, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed something was wrong when I was editting earlier today. I thought the problem was on my end. Nevertheless, nice to hear someone's working on fixing it. --PiralDorrm (talk) 19:36, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Placement of Infoboxes[edit source]

I've noticed that sometimes infoboxes are placed inside a \Info subpage while other times it's directly inside of the page. Are there any guidelines for when to do either? There isn't any helpful information on the formatting guidelines, subpage guidelines, or the infobox documentation. Faleagawk (talk) 14:51, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Wiki guidelines and policies haven't been updated for years so we should probably do it at one point... Both can be used, there are no rules on when to put it directly on the page, and when to add it through /Info. Difference is, /Info will show a pop-up window on mouse over for icons and item names. When creating it through /Info subpage, add <noinclude>|nocat=yes</noinclude><includeonly>|nocat=</includeonly> at the bottom (before "}}" ) as we don't want to have infobox added into various categories. --Damixon (talk) 11:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Conversion from SMW to Cargo[edit source]

Due to ongoing performance issues with Semantic MediaWiki, we're looking at trying to switch wikis using it over to Cargo. As a preliminary step, I'm asking editors to double check to see if any templates you work with that use #ask, #show, #set, or #subobject are somewhere within Category:Semantics. It would also be helpful if all the Property pages are somewhere in there, and any Forms or Concepts that are being used, if any, would ideally be somewhere in there as well. (Basically, this will help me avoid missing anything when I start adding Cargo support.)

I don't have an ETA yet because we're working on certain issues with Cargo as well, and ideally I hope to have both running side-by-side for a while until we test output from Cargo in sandboxes first. oOeyes User-Eyes-Sig.png 18:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)