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Full Dialogue[edit source]

For a bit more depth on the Iconians, the following is taken straight from the missions. --MatthewM 03:18, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

“State of Q”[edit source]

Q:

You have an enemy that is more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

For eons, the demons of air and darkness have waited in their starless corner of space, watching and planning. Now they're back, and they've chosen to stir your past up a bit and see what happens.

They've opened a tiny crack in reality for the Borg. Just enough to send some here, to this ship, to this time.

An insignificant little change, in the grand scheme of things ... but it's one that could do irreparable damage to the world you know.

“A Light in the Dark”[edit source]

Why are the Undine attacking our dimension?

Celestara Mex:

They are attacking because they think we are a threat to them.

The Undine were wary after their first encounters with humanoids, but they were willing to listen when Kathryn Janeway offered a truce. All they wanted was to be left alone.

Then they were attacked, this time in fluidic space, and all the evidence they found pointed to an invasion by the humanoids. By ... us.

They've found an artifact here. The technology is unlike anything they've ever seen before, and they've been studying it for several years.

They know its how whomever has been attacking fluidic space has been getting in, but it doesn't use a quantum singularity.

The Undine are passionate about protecting fluidic space. They decided that if the humanoids were attacking here, they would respond in kind. But they didn't think an overt attack would succeed, so they used their shapechanging technology to make us destroy ourselves.

The breakdown of the Klingon-Federation alliance, the rise of Empress Sela, the attack on the Gorn that led to the Klingon-Gorn war -- the Undine have been involved in it all.

We are their greatest weapon.

What can you tell me about this artifact they have found?

Celestara Mex:

The Undine believe that it is a transdimensional teleportation device.

It appears as a large gateway, with a control device that can direct where the users go. The Undine's tests have shown that it can access locations thousands of light years away.

From what I have learned, I don't believe that it is Alpha Quadrant technology -- not like we understand it, anyway. A group that could build and use these gateways wouldn't need starships.

Arriving at the Iconian Gateway

Celestara Mex:

This is the area that the Undine wanted you to see, <rank>.

All of the incursions into their world started here. They believe that the humanoids of the Alpha Quadrant were using this technology as a prelude to a full-scale invasion. They do not understand why we would do so, but they are more than prepared to meet force with force ... as their actions in our world have so clearly shown.

The Undine see us as a threat to everything they hold dear, <rank>, and they are prepared to destroy us to protect themselves.

However, I think they're wrong. When I look at this gateway, I feel a dark, alien presence in my mind. It is something ancient ... something unnatural.

And there is a single word ... Iconian.

I'm sorry, <rank>. With all of this, I'm feeling quite weak. Would it be possible for me to return to the <ship> now?

“Frozen”[edit source]

Why are you doing this? Why fight the Tal Shiar

Obisek:

Understand that I do not want this war, I want freedom for my people. It is the Romulans ... and the dark masters they serve, who have caused this. Now they must suffer the consequences.

Did Sela order these attacks?

Obisek:

This campaign of terror is the Tal Shiar's doing, not the empress's. Still, Sela does nothing to stop it.

There is little love between the empress and the Tal Shiar. Did you know that, many years ago, she was exiled from Romulus for attempting to assassinate the head of their order?

The Tal Shiar have their own masters. And Sela despises what she cannot control.

Why do you think the Tal Shiar are doing this?

Obisek:

Hakeev and the Tal Shiar no longer serve the empire.

The demons of air and darkness are their masters now. They whisper in the night for chaos and despair, and Hakeev gives them blood as tribute.

Our blood.

Tell me more about these "demons."

Obisek:

I have never seen one of these demons, and I will not speak their name. But I know that they exist.

Eons ago, they controlled this part of the galaxy. After thousands of years of tyranny and death, the races that they ruled rose up against them, driving them from their homeworld into unexplored space.

We thought they had been destroyed. We were wrong. The demons of air and darkness survive, and they hunger for revenge.

“Coliseum”[edit source]

Hakeev of the Romulan Tal Shiar had a report to his Iconian master on one of the computer consoles:

Honored Master, it will take some time to complete my report, but I have a few personal observations for you that may prove useful. Please consider them when you make your plans.

  • Humans and Klingons show the greatest proclivity toward fighting when there is no chance of victory.
  • Breaking a Vulcan's emotional control will usually render them helpless. They have no ability to process the emotions that they so zealously suppress.
  • Bajorans will fight to the death to defend homes or loved ones, but they may reject a fight that doesn't threaten what they hold dear.
  • Betazoids will detect betrayal almost instantly, but their telepathic senses can be overwhelmed by extreme pain or violent thoughts. This can allow an infiltrator to escape their notice.
  • A possible wedge to break the Klingon Empire may be the Gorn. More than 77 percent of Gorn captives chose to help another Gorn before assisting a Klingon, even if that choice resulted in the death of the Klingon.
  • Hirogen are formidable in single combat, but their fractured society reduces their threat level significantly.
  • I have been unable to separate a Trill symbiote from its host for separate study. Two attempts to implant a symbiote in a host from another species have failed. Both the symbiote and the host died within hours.
  • Undine are quite interesting. I request more time to study this race in greater detail.

Star Trek Magazine 154 P.50-52 information[edit source]

From Star Trek Magazine Issue 154 P.50-52. Basically a summary of in game dialogue. Include or not?

Characterised as an ancient power driven form their home by a coalition of, 'younger' subject races. Following losing the war that ended with the orbital bombardment of Iconia they fled to the deep unexplored areas of the beta quadrant becoming wanders/hunters destroying and civilisation that ha a resources or technology they wanted. Highly advanced generational city ships were developed so they wouldn't need a homeworld.

Determined to avoid a repeat of their defeat, (unified attacks by neighbouring alien civilisations) they began to observe the events of the Alpha quadrant with the Dominion War convincing them to act by stirring up sufficient dissent amongst the major alpha quadrant powers to make it almost impossible for them to fight a common enemy. They decided to use the Undine, (Species 8472) as a stalking horse by causing trouble in fluidic space planting clues framing the Federation and Klingon Empire.

While have no explict interest in a homeworld they still want to reclaim the Iota Povanis Sector block.

After coming in contact with the obessed Taris, the Iconians directed her to place the Hobus star with a device that created the subspace supernova that destroyed Romulus. 86.171.69.220 00:52, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't think most of it fits under our canon policy. Still, thanks for sharing. - Mitchz95 (talk) 03:21, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Surface Tension (spoilers)[edit source]

So ... an Iconian appears at the end of “Surface Tension”. I got a picture of it at File:Iconian.png, and was about to add it to this article when it occurred to me that sticking a mugshot at the top of the page would be a major spoiler to players who haven't gotten to that mission yet. While it should definitely be added at some point, I'm thinking maybe we should hold off until the mission's been out a week or so. Thoughts? - Mitchz95 (talk) 21:31, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Anyone else think it was female? It certainly seemed it to me. 109.153.44.40 16:18, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Just how do we know that the Iconian in this mission is wearing 'ceremonial attire'? For all we know, that could be how they look any other day of the week. Orca19904 (talk) 06:32, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

If it's an emissary, it could be said that it wears ceremonial attire. It could also be the Iconian version of a t-shirt and jeans, though, so we should probably work on that phrasing. The Klingon Jedi (talk) 02:17, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
I find the inclusion of "ceremonial attire" unnecessarily specific. And we have no real indication whatshe is wearing (or if she is wearing anything at all) I would like to remove it again. Tadayou (talk) 07:40, 1 May 2014 (UTC)